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The scammers using the name of a musicals legend to try to rob me

Wine investment can be successful for some. These scammers think that by highlighting the success of Andrew Lloyd Webber they can get my cash.

If you want to put your money into fine wine – and there is an investment case just as there is for many other assets – then do so. But do it properly and and don't ever get suckered into the process via a cold call.

I get loads of these for all sorts of assets but, at the moment, primarily wine. These calls are always bad news. Last week, I met a top person from the Financial Conduct Authority. I told him the best way to protect vulnerable savers from these charlatans was for the watchdog to organise a “hang up on investment cold callers – ALWAYS ” campaign.

Sophisticated phone pests

In the interim, I am pleased to say my latest unwelcome wine call did not treat me as a complete idiot, as the last few did. Though perhaps I should not be pleased, because the more sophisticated the phone pests become, the more likely they are to convince potential victims to hand over their cash.

We still have the 'China story' - how the newly very rich in the world's biggest nation are so desperate to buy the finest wines that they will pay anything.

The phone hucksters used to come up with the line that the Chinese really did not care what they did with the wine – the tall tale was they diluted it with Coca-Cola. They do not explain whether this is for taste reasons or to show an utter contempt for European ways. Whichever, it was not true and had nasty racist undertones.

A different tack

My new wine 'friend' James has a different tack. He explains how Andrew Lloyd Webber, the writer of many musicals, sold wine at auction in China for £3.5 million. What he did not tell me was that the sale was in January 2011, a two and a half year time gap during which the Chinese economic dragon has lost a lot of fire.

Even more worrying was James' insistence that the sale was the result of a £330,000 investment in 1993. Where did he get that from? There is no evidence from any of the contemporary accounts that all the wine came from one purchase. On the contrary, it seems Lloyd Webber had been building up a cellar for decades and needed to make some space.

James also said the Russians, Indians and Brazilians were all big buyers. He's possibly right, but no matter who is buying, it does not mean that James will exchange my investment cash into something drinkable, let alone sellable for big gains.

James, described as a “junior broker” (whatever that means) posted me a very well-produced brochure with loads of really attractive colour pictures – art quality photos of grapes, wine glasses, barrels, scenes of provincial France, and maps of the wine growing regions.

But other than a promise to provide me with every expertise under the sun so I could just sit back and watch my fortune expand, there was little information on his employer. The brochure looked very similar to others I've seen. Somewhere out there I believe there is someone producing these for all these wine cold-callers (and there are dozens).

Moving from carbon credits to wine

For all the claimed expertise – the years of supposed experience and the strong links with the wine trade – the fact is James' firm has been around for less than a year. Its one director was last heard of cold-calling people to sell them carbon credits, from the same address using a company which is about to be struck off at Companies House. Not that that is of any help to victims.

James – unlikely to be his real name – actually knows nothing about wine. He was recruited by a specialist firm in investment cold calling and he reads from a script. His script tells me only 13,000 cases of fine wine will be produced. Others I've spoken to have said it is 17,000 or 25,000.

It's all nonsense, but said in a way which sounds authoritative.

He told me there would be no tax to pay on my profits. This is not true. The very legitimate Wine and Spirit Trade Association which has a warning notice on its website to help potential investors avoid fraud. It says: “Profits from wine investment are not necessarily tax free. For inheritance tax purposes, wine will be valued at the current open market value. Depending on the circumstances, fine wines may also attract Capital Gains Tax.”

But if James and his mates told prospective victims the truth, they would not hand over the cash. In my case, he expects me to send £20,000.

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  • 24 July 2013

    If you want to get rid of them immediately, blowing a whistle down the phone usually puts them off telephoning you again (I always warn them beforehand that if they don't hang up they will regret it - I don't want to be unfair). JRay 100 has given me an idea however and that is to get the name and telephone number of a serious fraud squad officer and then set up a system with that officer to make out that he is a business collegue and you can put some good business in the scammers way if they will only phone him/her. The officer can then perhaps track the caller. You would not be lying as the "business" you and the officer are in is catching serious fraud scammers. Many of these scammers are in other countries in order to avoid the laws of the country they telephone - something the various Governments could co-operate on. Don't forget that scammers/con men/women can also appear to be extremely respectable and even rich/titled/famous if the scam is face to face. Good luck in avoiding them.

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  • 21 July 2013

    I like these cold callers, they are so thick, I let them talk for about 20/30 min, I wind them up and they do not realize it, while they think they have got me hooked it is stopping them trying to get someone else falling for there scam, they sent me a nice glossy brochure at cost to them and I return it by FREEPOST

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  • 20 July 2013

    I haven't been troubled with so many cold calls since I mentioned in a follow-up call that I had forwarded the 'pink diamonds' scam literature to the Serious Fraud Office! (I had!) ...But I had a youngster offering me a 'cast-iron' property return in Brazil... I talked to him about how I made money trading long and short ETF's... eventually he gave up on his sales speil and before hanging up asked me for the ticker codes for the ETF's!: LUK2 &SUK2!

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